hey I'm an Tony Bradshaw with the millionaire Choice excited to be talking to the real Jason Duncan on the root of all success podcast about business and money you know we guys are all living in a slave Financial system if you want to learn how to break free from the slave Financial system you need to listen to what we have to talk about today welcome to the root of all success with the real Jason Duncan a podcast that explores how the world's most powerful entrepreneurs unlocked success and how their stories can help you do the same a successful educator turned entrepreneur Jason has built multi-million dollar businesses that have been featured in Inc magazine and Entrepreneur magazine his life's Mission now is helping entrepreneurs live what he calls #the exit lifestyle introducing tedex speaker mastermind leader author entrepreneur cigar fishing anado motorcycle Enthusiast and host of the root of all success the real Jason Duncan the real Jason Duncan hey there welcome back to another episode I am the real Jason Duncan you can call me JD I have Tony Bradshaw today as my guest on the show and this topic is really interesting now it's going to take us a minute in the conversation you'll hear us kind of ramp up into this but we're going to be talking about the slave system of money and how we're all slaves to A system that is bigger than us but the choice to leave that system is pretty easy and it's just a choice that you have to make so who is Tony Bradshaw who's an author he's a speaker he's a podcaster he's an entrepreneur uh one of his famous quotes is that anything is possible when you make the right choices he has a coaching program called higher Peak he has a digital collaboration agency called acute minds and then he has his own podcast called the millionaire Choice we'll talk about that at the top of the show today but I want you to pay attention and listen closely for how you can make the choice to escape the slave system of money please help me welcome Tony Bradshaw to the root of all success hey Jason thanks for having me on I'm excited about chatting with you today I I love it I love I love the fact that there's two things we're both Nashville guys uh we both have podcasts and you had me on your show the millionaire Choice which we'll talk about a little bit here in a second and uh what's funny is that we had never met we got introduced you invited me on your show I got on your show and then the same day we saw each other in person in Nashville never seen each other before and we saw each other and that that's kind of kind of cool how we ran into each other but uh but now you're on my show the root of all success but podcast listeners like to hear about cool shows so take a minute first and just tell everybody about your show the name of it where they can hear he it what it's about and then we'll move on into the discussion for today yeah sure Jason yeah it was interesting bumping into you that quickly uh that that fast uh I'm a big believer people get connected for reasons and kind of excited about that but yeah I've been doing the millionaire Choice show for oh I guess about three years I think I started right in the middle of Co about uh I think May of 2020 and uh it's been a really fun uh Journey uh as you know I was in uh with Dave Ramsey for a number of years working with him and uh his investment philosophy are very clean very very cut dry and probably the biggest thing for me doing my show over the last 120 episodes is how many different ways there are to build wealth I've been exposed to you know 100 different 120 different Millionaires and it's been fun to see all of their stories come out from uh you know people that were in Chinese concentration camps um missed three years of their high school education and then ended up becoming millionaires or some that lived homeless in tents for a summer with their parents their dad and then lived in a trailer park basically a trailer for a number of years and then ended up becoming multi-millionaires by age 30 homeless at age 20 multi-millionaire at age 30 and those are the kind of stories I embrace on my show the millionaire choice and just trying to inspire people with a way to build wealth and and that's kind of where I'm at today in the head space uh just helping people change their lives I came from a broke family and uh Broke Free from that and uh you know and millionaire status uh not quite decamillionaire yet but I'm I'm heading that way so what's the difference between being broke and being poor uh yeah I think depending on who you talk to broke is a state of mind right poor is a state of H where you're at I was probably a little bit of both back in the day it wasn't going anywhere fast uh I'm a big believer I like to talk about the Geral wheel where we just have this work spin mentality where that's all we do with our lives for you know 70 to 80 years and that's the only thing we ever really accomplish other than having family but I'm talking about financially and I don't know if either one of those are broke or poor I call those uh uh broke and a just getting buy bucket you're living in one of four buckets Jason you're either in the broke the just getting buy bucket or the future millionaire or millionaire bucket those are the only four buckets financially in life and you get to choose which one you want to live in so what I find interesting about millionaire and I love this the title The Millionaire choice is that for those of the people that I come in contact with and I I just had another guy interviewed on my show same thing for him it's like becoming a millionaire happens silently and quietly in the background while you're doing whatever it is you're doing and then one day you wake up and go huh hey I'm a millionaire because I think I think everybody thinks that a millionaire you know what that is is a person just has that much cash sitting in the bank or or they've got you know or sitting in their under their mattress or something and and all comes at once no it comes over time usually starts out in the form of some sort of asset and then it continues to build into Cash later so you mentioned something a couple of things I want to dive into just a little bit briefly I want to talk a little bit about your you how you started work with abramy and you work with him for a long time you're not with him anymore you're on your own you're doing your own thing but I think so many people are like familiar with his name and Concepts and he gets a lot of push back on some of his Concepts from people in circles I run into so like how did you come to work for him to begin with and and you were there I think you said 15 years so tell just a little just brief about that and then we'll move on into what you're doing today yeah absolutely uh I was on this job search I was doing engineering work that's what I went to school for and I got into computers I fell in love with the internet and the internet just fascinated me this is back like 1997 1998 and I taught myself how a program taught myself how to do some database management very basic stuff but just enough to get my foot fo in the door at Dave Ramsey's when he uh was expanding his internet team they were at a place where they're like you know seeing the the dot thing and deciding they needed to invest in it so uh you know I'm a big Faith believer I believe in Jesus and and Christianity I'm Christian and so prayed about it a lot went on a job search for about two years and then went to my church one day picked up one of the classified and right there was an ad for uh for Dave Ramsey and I said this is what I'm GNA do I'm gonna go apply for this job at the time I didn't know who Dave was I just saw that ad and it had an internet uh you know position there and I'm like I'm applying for this thing and then uh interesting story here short version uh during the interview process uh we had to do a dinner interview it was a final interview with Dave at the table and he you know screens everybody my wife was there and uh at that table I looked at him and I'm like you're the guy who taught my marriage my pre-marriage class because I did not know his face and then here I was sitting at interview table with him and he had taught one of my premar classes at the church that I went to and so small world and and God makes you know connects those kind of dots but I I joined his team on the internet team uh and then quickly got put into a leadership role in 20 this was 2001 March 2001 I was in leadership the following year in 2002 and then left in 2016 and while I was there I was the VP CIO VP of what I call internet business and technology CIO chief operations officer and it was a you know a different type of coo role it wasn't a true coo role it was more of a over strategy and project management Resource Management so was a little bit different but uh yeah that was my journey there and it it was a good run and and uh you know when you're it's a at a place like that for like 15 years sometimes you either grow apart or you you just don't fit and I got to a point where I was a square peg in a round hole as I tell people I got voted off the island and and so I I couldn't do what they wanted me to do and they didn't want to let me do what I wanted to do and it was uh you know a good split at the time and I have nothing but good things to say about the company Dave's very forward think in person and you know as you mentioned uh my investment strategies are a little bit different than Dave's uh Dave's an amazing teacher and he's he's helping people with the biggest pressing need I think In America which is the concept of debt uh you know when you when you deal with and you look at the numbers and like 70 plus percent of people are Liv in paycheck toay paycheck and they're on that gerbal wheel they're just going to work and spending and and that's it that's like all they ever do I was just at my dad's house yesterday he's uh 72 years old still working full-time uh with no retirement savings uh with he's got a house but that's about it and uh he C he couldn't retire really he could do social security but it's two grand a month or something and uh you know and my sister's kind of following in the same Suite she's doing a lot of the same stuff no retirement and um you know so it's it's a it's it's a sad thing but that's the state of America and that's where Dave is helping the most people and he's number one at it like he's the best in the game at helping people kind of wake up financially um but yeah it's good run I enjoyed my time there so you now are kind of building your own little brand around the idea investing the millionaire choice of course is your thing and you've you've got your higher Peak which is a business masterminded coaching program you got a cute Minds which is your digital collaboration agency you're doing some speaking you're writing writing some stuff so what is the thing that you're doing now that you're on your own you've been on your own for the last what was that eight six years six years or so so what are you doing now that's different than what you're doing as an employee at with date yeah I think the biggest thing for me and I'll be real transparent with you on the show uh Jason you know the fastest way to lose half your money is to screw up your marriage and lose it right so you you take or maybe lose 60% of it depending on how bad you were uh I made some mistakes in my marriage back in like 2013 to 2017 fortunately I got my head screwed back on right and started trying to fix my marriage so I've been very focused on being a better dad being a better husband the last seven years I've been working on my business but if I had to look back over the seven years and go what did I really accomplish in the last seven years one it was I started I fixed my marriage and started treating my wife the way that she needed to be treated uh you know that I should have been treating her all along but didn't know how to right and uh my both my parents grew up in broken homes broken families lots of alcoholism and so they gave me a very good upbring because they were better parents to me than the parents they were they had so they made a huge step forward for me and I needed to break free to the next level and help my kids but I've got six kids so learning how to be a and I was an absentee father for a lot of that so that was a big one for me uh figuring that stuff out the business side of things is very interesting because when you go from being in a job or a job mindset pretty much since birth so 46 years to being an entrepreneur it t what I've learned is it takes a while to shift your mindset like that is the biggest thing that has to happen and it takes a little while to do that you know I'm not I'm a good sales guy but I don't wake up every morning trying to figure out how to sell $110,000 worth of stuff every day um that's not my mindset I am what I would call a builder entrepreneur I'm really good at Vision I'm really good at strategy I'm really good at product I'm really good at Systems and Technology so I like to build things uh Small Wonder I grew up as a you know a son of a carpenter and I'm an engineer so I'm naturally wre wired to be a builder entrepreneur I'm not naturally wired to wake up and go just figure out how to sell a million dollars worth of product every day and so that's something I've had to learn um and I would say that's probably if you're going to be an entrepreneur you better learn how to sell and uh I I don't think I've mastered that yet the the whole mindset of it but uh those are kind of the big things for me right now uh I think I've got a good brand you have to develop a good brand in message and I've done enough now sounds weird to say six years but you have to convince yourself of it you know and find out what your your language is or your your brand is or what 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unique perspective in in working for one of the top guys in the money game that's a throwback to the original show title in the money game uh with with Dave Ramsey but now on your own and you've seen a lot I mean and you said you admitted hey I've got a different philosophy and a different investing philosophy different Etc so let's di in what are those multiple ways to earn wealth in your opinion yeah I think there's a there's a mindset shift that has to happen I've got an event called purpose of wealth uh Jason matter of fact I'd like to get you on the speakers list for that at some point if you're interested but what I'm trying to do with that is bring together in the local area a lot of different speakers who have different Mastery over different Financial topics some are real estate people some are cryptocurrency experts some are stock market investors some some may even do venture capital and so you've got all of these different opportunities to to build wealth um but what happens is a when you first get started you you just really need to get started like when I was 25 years old I knew I was broke and I'm like this sucks I don't want to be broke let me shift and so I did what I call my financial Awakening uh where I shifted from being broke mindset to go hey I'm going to be a millionaire and I think I can do it by age 40 nowadays that you would do that in a lot faster time for various reasons but you know back in 1995 that didn't sound too bad 15 years to become a millionaire when you're going from broke um what I did was something very simple is instead of spending all my money Jason I said you know what I'm gonna stop spending it all I'm gonna take ,000 doll a month and I'm GNA invest ,000 doll a month I'm G to put 500 in the mutual funds $500 in the stocks and I'm gonna I did what was called swing trading so um when you there's two types of investment philosophies one is going to be more of an active uh active investing philosophy where you're actually doing something with your money on a regular or semi-regular basis okay and then there's more passive where you kind of like stick some some money into to say a mutual fund and it just sits there and you know 50 years later it becomes you know a couple million bucks right that's one's active you're doing something with it regularly you're engaged with your money you're watching it one is you just park it 401ks and IRAs typically are this kind of like park it park it mindset um you don't have to be very smart to do that you just have to kind of stick it in the system and leave it alone that's if you want to get like what is it the seven to 10% that's you know what this S&P Index Fund would get you over Long Haul the other one is to go hey I'm going to trade say Tesla stocks and I'm G to get into Tesla whether that's a day trading philosophy or a swing trading or maybe you sell it buy it at a certain period of time sell it again uh later in the year or or if you want to hold it for a longer period of time that would be more of a bond hold so those are kind of the things that I've kind of had to start doing in uh as far as the stocks go is more of active and to do that you have to get smart what I call get smart with your money so just like you learn about math English and science for 12 years in school you have to develop a mindset of I'm going to study money right if you want to build wealth you have to get to a place where you're going I need to take time out of my day to study money just like I learned how to speak I learned how to do math I learned those are skills that you had to learn to be functioning in society but you also have to do the same things if you want to be you know get wealthy and that's the things where most Americans they go through their entire lives and they never take time to actually learn about money and statistically uh you're going to work everybody's going to work 100 to 150,000 hours in their lifetime like think about that like how much work that is and then you get to the end and you're in your 70s and you're living on government assistance like that's like when you when you do the math mentally in your head that is such a screwed up like life it's a screwed up system the whole the whole system is screwed up you have to look back and go why did not why did the government or the schools not teach me about money from K through 12 that's another question in and of itself right because they don't know you know I was talking about I was speaking in event recently and this whole idea of why doesn't the school teach about money and the answer is is because they don't know like can you imagine just pluck an 11th grade teacher out of out of any high school in the United States public school and say okay tell me everything you know about money dude they make 40 50 Grand a year they don't know anything about money well so we can't expect them to teach it now that doesn't mean we can commiserate you and I on the fact that it isn't being taught but the reason they don't teach is they don't know no but you know what you said is really interesting and I'm going to I'm going to see if you see if you agree this whole system is screwed up you know we work all these hours and then we live on government assistance which is Social Security and and whatever we might have put in 401K it's a it's screwed up but I think it was screwed up by Design I I honestly believe that that whoever was in charge at some point in the past sat down and said here's what we're going to do we're going to tell people they have to work this many hours we're going to make a work week we're going to tell people they can put money in this thing we're going to call it this 401 1K and they're going to think is the greatest thing in the world but we're actually going to use their money for their whole working life and tell them they can't get access to it we're going to punish them if they do and then at the end we're going to tax them on what's at the end and by the way we're going to raise taxes between now and then so when they get there it's going to be higher ta like the whole thing is screwed up and we're just sitting there going okay I'll do what you say Mr government that's why I think Building Wealth has got to be outside of these government programs we got to figure this crap out on her own that's my opinion I don't know what you think well I would say 100% Jason it except you're only about 90% right okay so I'm 100% on the same page with you but I think you're missing a little bit uh I'm a little bit deeper in the hole than that and I'm gonna tell you it's 100% it is 100% designed that way and it's evil and it's pure enslavement like it is an enslavement model from the beginning and yeah and that's what it's designed to do like it is designed to make slaves like here's the deal yes the teachers don't know uh about money the pastors don't know about money the principles of the schools don't know about money but you have to go deeper and go why do they not know about money because you can't have a slave system if everybody understands the principles of building wealth and and the it's you have to go higher up the chain you have to go higher up the chain to understand who actually created the system at the very very very top and when I talk about that I'm talking about the central Bankers the global Bankers they own the whole banking system they designed the federal system like even when you get to taxes this blows your mind and I I we need to go back and study our history I did not know like I knew that you know you hear about the the tea party right where they the the English tried to tax the tea and they poured it in the the Boston Massachusetts poured it out in the the bay there um but what you lose track of is the fact that we didn't have any income taxes like all of our taxes were paid by tariffs that came from other countries so if like if China wanted to do business in the United States they had to pay tariffs just to sell their products in the United States and then those tariffs actually paid the taxes for the governments you didn't have property taxes like that's property taxes like Jason if you know you help me do this right help me get rid of property taxes in the state of Tennessee right people should be able to own their houses own their properties outright without any fear of ever losing those properties once they buy them the pure fact that we've been tricked into letting property taxes even exist is part of that system and as you get on let's say for example somebody gets on government assistance I think your max social security check right now is like 4,500 bucks all right well property taxes you're you get fixed on that income pretty much you get a slight maybe increase I don't know every five or 10 years or something like that but your property taxes are inching up and up and up and up and up so they're going to continue to gobble up more of your overall government allowed income until a place you get to a place where you can't even afford you know to own your own house by the time you pay insurance and property taxes electricity water you can't even own your own home you can't afford it if you don't have a way to create wealth but yeah I mean this is a deep rabbit hole if anybody wants to read this on your show Jason I'm sure well I'm not sure you've read it but if you haven't you should is the creature from Jackal Island by G Edward Griffin yeah that book blew my mind I'm still not fully through it it's audio book you know 20 hour audio book but I've got a whole lot of other ones on my shelf that I need to read but uh you know you can read G Edward Griffin's book pretty much get your understanding of the whole system but uh back to what you were saying you know I look at wealth like the stock market is a Ponzi scheme uh in my book you can use it to make wealth but it is part of the system it is designed as part of the system um and we get uh you know real wealth is businesses like you're you know you're doing I'm doing now gold and silver every generation for thousands of years has looked at gold and silver as a former wealth and land in real estate like that those are real tangible uh elements of wealth that everybody should learn to master so I'm really happy to hear you say about the property taxes and and I probably get more negative troll comments on shows when I talk about property taxes than anything else because the the majority of humans living in this country or around the world don't understand what you and I understand and what you just said is that you never own your property the Govern government owns it and we have we we were tricked I love that you said tricked we were tricked into this slave system I love that com that that that phraseology of okay y I'll buy the half million dollar house I'll live in the half million dollar house and I'll seek to pay it off because that's what Dave Ramsey would say pay it off pay it off okay you pay it off let's say you pay it off but you still owe the government money Forever on that property that means you don't own it if you owe money on something you don't own it so the government owns your property I can't believe that we allowed that to happen and I'm with you Tony let's start a movement to get rid of property taxes permanently so let me own my stuff why should I have to pay a tax every single year Forever on something that I already paid for insane that the only crazier tax might be the death tax that that it's probably the crazier tax than property taxes but you know I'm not around to deal with the death tax that's my family's problem that's why we don't talk about it as much but this is a slave system we've got a system and you're people aren't studying money and they're stuck in the system so what do we do about it how do how do we how do we deal with the system yeah I think you got to start in a couple different places uh one you got to start with education right uh everybody's got to learn how to manage their money and and that alone will wake people up um that's like step number one we have to be more intentional about our financial education uh we have to help people understand how to build wealth the second one I think is you've got to enable everybody to build wealth so like under my mindset this is me thinking about how to change a system I don't wake up every day and figure out how to build a business Jason I don't think I do think that way but for me the business is really just the the money and the tools that I need to shake up the system like my my calling and passion is to shake up the system and so in my world when I look at people on the street everywhere I walk I see Millionaires and future millionaires I don't want the word poverty I don't want the word broke I don't want the word struggling in place and the reason and that may sound crazy to some of your listeners Jason but the reality is it could all be that way because right now all the money is rolling up to a very small group of people and it's because the system is set up that way if you can change the system and it doesn't take much right I'm gonna give you a formula in just a second right so if you take the system and you invert it where the money people still have to work but they are working with a future and a vision most people I find when I coach they don't have the ability to create their own Vision they're trapped in the day-to-day and they on the average guy can't think of a different world or Envision a different lifestyle than the one they're currently living in they can't they can't create the vision and because they can't create that Vision they can't create a plan to get there so they can't shift their their dayto day and that's part of the TR trap right you get up you go to work you get you pay your bills you got a little bit left over if you're lucky what do you do with that well a lot of people might go to the movies right oh let's go we can afford to go to the movies tonight let's go to the movies right um that's that's what my parents would do we would say let's go celebrate let's eat crystals for tonight and let's go to a movie and then my dad lost hundred bucks for the movie tickets in the evening one night my mom chewed him out right she's like where did you lose the $100 and then we had to go home because we didn't have the money because somewhere between the 18 M and the movie theater he lost $100 and we looked on the like I remember that I remember that was Rivergate you know where Rivergate at oh yeah that was my stomping grounds as a kid man Cruis them allall all the time in Rivergate yeah Cinema North that's where we were at Cinema North it was a movie theater sitting in the parking lot I remember it clear as day and my mom's yelling at my dad because he lost $100 somewhere between the ATM and East Nashville and the movie theater in Rivergate that was the struggle right and uh you know bills getting paid not getting paid on time time lights getting cut off everything you know that the whole thing that families struggle with but here's the deal if we develop a a heart and mindset for each other and and here's here's a formula here's a formula I want to implement I would love to see us create a trust not not owned by the government not run by the bankers not tied to the government but tied to individuals and the day a child is born the day a child is born we issue that child of birth right and we start we enter them into an investment trust the day they're born okay if you put you could put $3,000 in there I would prefer to put $10,000 in there but if you put 3,000 that child is predetermined to be a millionaire in their 60s okay multi-millionaire right and that's on basic basic investment advice that's like the worst type of investment advice you could get right so the next one if you do 10 they're going to be like guaranteed to be between six and 10 million bucks okay so you're giving them a Birthright why is that significant because all of these kids that grow up in poverty all of a sudden the day they're born they have something of abundance spoken over them from the beginning from the very beginning and what happens is then you start interacting with that family and you start interacting with that child through updates through information and you give them like just like you know if you're in a stock and you own a stock you're getting stock reports every year right it says hey here's your value here's your I see the same model and system in place for these kids where they're going oh by the time you mean by the time I'm 18 or let's say 21 because doubling every seven years by the time I'm 21 I'm worth $80,000 like my net worth and like that's that's a foreign concept when you look at the Hispanic and the black community the average net worth is usually like like seven I think it's like seven $8,000 like when you look at the numbers so here you are at 21 and you got kids that are worth more more than their parents are and they're only 21 years old and that opens up a whole you know world of other things that you need to do so here's here's the last question before I leave that topic how much money do you think it would take to do that for every child born in Nashville Jason for one year for one year put $3,000 into the trust 10 10,000 10,000 I don't know how many kids are born in Nashville but it would be simple math I mean it's probably several thousand kids are born in Nashville every year so I don't know I think last time last time I ran the numbers it was around $40 million okay so40 million which sounds like a lot of money to some listeners some people but the reality is that's nothing man that's there's so there's so much money in Nashville like you literally in one less than a generation you could set up every child in in Nashville to become Millionaires multi-millionaires and then think about the abundance that that would create and the mindset shift that that would create now you wouldn't give them access to that money like there would be all kinds of rules and stuff that you would s set up but you're issuing a birth right the current birth right is you get to 65 and you're living on $4,000 Max a year off of a government you know trust and it's a it's a scarcity mindset my thing is like if you had a if you had grandma and she's a multi-millionaire you start to see the economic system shift because grandma is not gonna let little Johnny go to college and take out 80,000 or $100,000 in student loan debt what's Grandma going to do when she's a multi-millionaire she's probably going to write that check for Lil John so now you don't have this debt mentality or this debt lifestyle you have something a little bit different but yeah well here here's so the idea conceptually I'm with you but the problem with that idea in my opinion hearing it for the first time is that if you did that as a systemic thing where we say herey here's $40 million trust that we're developing for Davidson County all the kids yes those kids are now set up but here's what happens that devalues money for all of those kids because now they didn't have to work for it they don't understand the concept they don't understand if you put this as in a concept individually you work with your client I work with my client say listen here's what you need to do for your kids now because not everybody's doing it there's value perception because everybody gets it there's no value there's no perceived value if only a few get it there's perceived value so conceptually I like I get it I want to I I want my kids to experience I want your kids to experience it but if we did it as another system surely to goodness we're going to get a screwed up another another system that's we're going to be slaves to and the perception is lost of the value everybody's got it doesn't matter so how do we do how do we bridge that Gap how do we take Concepts like that and make it work yeah I think that's a you know obviously there's Concepts and you got to prove out the concepts like how would they work there would be roadblocks and obstacles to do that you know the way I look at it is you got to start with where your influence is like for me it's my family and my Workforce so I've got people on my team you know you build a company so where I go is like I want to make sure that everybody on my team has the mindset of becoming a Millionaire right so like a lot of companies have employees and they don't care what you do with your money they don't care about like you're there for a year two years five years there's no ownership of the staff there's no responsibility you know you create the 41k you feel like you're doing your stuff as a business owner my mindset is like no you have a responsibility if you have the the keys of wealth as a leader then you have a responsibility to lead your team into a wealth and abundance lifestyle that's where I would start and then you got to figure out the the problems right so um if you you're gonna have to overcome those hurdles like you're saying Jason where if everybody's got it it's not special right but I think there are ways to deal with that psychology so you got to get into the education system you got to solve those problems like yeah what does it look like if everybody's growing up with financial education and financial understanding and they're all Building Wealth and they all learn how to make money in the stock market at age 13 right that's a very different world then uh nobody knows how to do it and so it it it it creates a it creates a new set of challenges that I think we have to step into as a society and figure those things out together because the alternative is what you got right now you got you know uh a billion people a year a day billion people a day going hungry on the planet right that that there's enough money in the world to solve world hunger it's just that the right people the the bad people in my opinion have the money and the good people don't so that's why you have all these problems because they don't want to solve these problems they don't want to solve poverty they don't want to solve the fact that there's drug addiction on every corner uh you know Across America in some form or fashion like you know whether it's opioids or heroin or whatever these cocaine like they don't want those problems solved because that that's all part of the system so we have to get more money into people's hands good people like you that want to solve those problems right now that money is in the hands of people who don't want those problems solved and uh that's that's what I'm fighting for you know the whole the whole system needs to be shaken up in my opinion we've got we definitely have this slave system and and those of us who see it for what it is it's really easy to escape they try to hold us at the you know hold us enslaved to the system and there's so much imagery really good imagery around this without disrespecting any people Jews or blacks anybody else that have dealt with slavery in their history there's so much imagery in this idea of this slave system that we are dealing with that should make us all think for a minute like we are in a system that people are holding a slave to and this is not just money I mean is there could there is cancer curable absolutely why isn't it because it's a trillion dollar industry every year Cancer Treatments it's never going to be cured because it's too much money poverty is a business you know the poverty is a business there people make money because there's people poor so if you fix poverty you can't make money anymore so what we you and me and listeners to the show we can escape this slavery by just doing what you said earlier in the show Tony study money we just got to study it pick up a book read the creature from jeal Island it'll flip your wig man go go look at some of these books Rich Dad Poor Dad Number One Financial book written of all time sorry Dave Number One Financial a book written of all time and that has opened more people up to how money actually works and how to set themselves free from the system so Tony I'm with you dude I think we should work on this tell everybody about you've got this purposeful wealth event I I know there may not be 100% figured out yet but can you tell everybody a little bit about this because I love the concept we talked about it a little bit earlier yeah sure uh we just did our third one we've only done three of these but it's we shifted from a a live event model we did the first two as a live version the last one I did with a guy named Jeremy Newsome here in Nashville which if you don't know Jeremy uh Jason I need to introduce you guys he's a just phenomenal guy he's a CEO of real life trading made his first stock investment when he was like five or six years old after watching Forest Gump he talked his dad into buying Apple stock uh and investing in in that so it's pretty pretty crazy but anyway he did the second one with me uh virtual seems like people really like the virtual model we did uh three and a half hours uh he and I tag teamed did about every 20 30 minutes we would Swap and somebody would talk about something else and that seem to go over really well and then what we do is we introduce this concept of wealth because a lot of people have a negative mindset around money they either think it's bad or they'll become bad if they get it like it'll corrupt them or you know the the favorite is uh money's money's evil right it's not money's not evil it's the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil so you have to flush all this mindset stuff out and then the concept there is when you when you get all that stuff out you get your heart right your mind right you can develop what I call a purpose for your wealth like why do you go to to work every day why do you make money what do you do with your money what's the purpose behind it and that is a a higher calling you know if you're in the Christian Community like you know you and I are um you start with a tithe teaching which is hey tithe tithe every week and that's like to me that's entry level 101 Finance in the in the Christian Community that's where a lot of people start and stop beyond that you get to what I call testing and sacrifice which is I know from my experience the more money I made the more God asked for and it wasn't uncommon for God to tap me on the shoulder in a service or when I meet somebody and sayhe I want you to write a $10,000 check for this person or I want you to write a $30,000 check that's what happened as I made more money God came asking me for some of it and that was a testing what I call testing uh to where you know it hurts it's it's more than tithing it's a little different and then beyond that becomes your purpose and that's where you go okay I have a purpose or a reason to make more money right so then that that drives kind of your reasoning behind working your reasoning behind uh the Domin what I call Dominion over money or dominion over wealth and that's where you go hey you mentioned it before I think human trafficking is like a $250 billion do industry drug trades like 250 billion um there's all this stuff it's gonna take as much money to stop that stuff as it is to keep it going like if you if you think you're going to stop human trafficking with a 100 million or even a billion dollars a year you're wrong because it's the the industry is too big so it's going to take people with a purpose behind their money to go solve these problems and that's what we're trying to do is educate people on the concepts of wealth how they can build it how they can make it and and then attach a purpose to it uh and that's new for me well I I love it I I think this is really good I want people to go check this out go to Tony bradshaw. comom Tony bradshaw. comom he's going to be posting information there about the the event when that the next ones comes up but you want to get involved in this the purpose the purposeful wealth event um Tony I got I got one final question for you but before I ask that question um tell everybody a little bit about how they can find you besides the website because I just gave the website what other ways can people get in touch with you yeah absolutely obviously the website Tony bradshaw. comom you can do Tony Bradshaw fan for my Facebook stuff I post up there quite often uh Instagram uh Twitter if you want the raw me probably get some Twitter AC I'm talking about a lot of different stuff on Twitter that I don't talk about on Instagram Facebook some of the other channels uh just a little bit more awake about what's going on in the world today because the world's crazy place right now isin it Jason 100% yeah so I I'm a big believer and just being awake and aware of what's going on because it's going to affect your life your family and um we need to be aware we need to be awake you know Wise is the Bible says we need to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves unfortunately most Christians today are just harmless as doves they're not very wise and we need to we need to fix that so let's ask you this question this is the root of all success so how does Tony Bradshaw Define the word success
personally I don't know that anybody's asked me that before Jason uh I think it comes down to impa in people's lives you know whether that's your family your wife um years ago I wanted to become what I call contagious that sounds you know bad considering Co but I wanted to put a smile on everybody face that I could and uh that that's a driving factor for me whether I know them well or don't know them well I want to leave even if it's the convenience store worker where I buy my gas I want to try to leave them better off after I've met them than before I met them and that's a goal I have and and with that as a definition impacting people's lives do you consider yourself to be a successful person I'm on my journey I'm on my journey well Tony it's been a pleasure talking to you man I know that we're going to do some more stuff together uh we're both both Nashville guys born and raised right here so we got we got a lot of things in common and uh we're on the same Mission we got to get people to escape make the right choice because somebody famous said anything is possible you make the right choices that somebody was Tony Bradshaw so we got to people make the right choices to escape the slave system of money and we can impact the world when we do that so Tony thanks for being here sharing your wisdom and we'll talk again soon well there you have it that was a very interesting conversation that it's a little different than some of the things that I normally talk about on the show but we're diving deep into this idea this slave system of money you need to choose to get out you don't have to be a slave to the 401K you don't have to be a slave to these ways that the government tells me that you have to use spend and eventually leave your money to other people and the government's even going to take a slice of that with the death tax there is a way you can choose to escape from the system and money is one of the ways that we can make big impact in the world one of the things that Tony said is that his definition of success is impacting people's lives and the way that we can do that is by creating wealth is creating wealth on our own through business through Investments through real estate through through anything that we can think of that allows us to improve our financial situation so that we can make not only a big impact in the world but we can escape this slave system of money and we can live free as truly free people now one of the things that he said there as a as a as a think something that we should do is we got to study money and sometimes in order to study money it's more than just reading books and listening to podcasts and that's certainly something you should do go go listen to or read the creature from jeck Island go listen to or read Rich Dad Poor Dad but there's also Beauty in hiring coaches like Tony or like me or like others to help you through that system to figure that out so I'm going to make a plea to you if you are a an entrepreneur if you're a man I work mainly with men if you're a male entrepreneur here in the United States your business is doing three million or dollars or more in revenue and you're looking for a coach to help take you to the next level to escape the slave system to to get to that next level financially but most of all to get out of the weeds of daily operations so that you could move into making impact in your life I want you to set up a free breakthrough session call with me that's free completely free I'll give you one hour of my time to get you to that next level we could talk about how we could do that together so what you're going to do is you're going to go to my website and you can go to the real Jason duncan.com coaching the real Jason duncan.com coaching and on there there it says apply for coaching well what that does that first call is just an application call to make sure you qualify for the Breakthrough and then if you do we'll schedule a breakthrough session with you so the real Jason duncan.com coaching well thank you for tuning in this week make sure you tune in again next time when I talk with another successful entrepreneur about his or her journey to success and any other cool topics we might dive into like we did today with this financial slave system that we're all a part of uh until we talk again next time I am the real Jason Duncan and as always Jesus is King attention business owners attention business owners feeling burned out from running your business uncertain if you're nearing burnout take our free 10 question business burnout test at business burnout test.com to discover where you stand with just 10 quick questions you'll learn how to immediately begin making changes to regain freedom and success cut your daily operations time in half improve your quality of life and prepare your business for your future exit without losing revenue or profit visit business burnout test.com now and take the test thank you for listening to another 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