hello my name is Don green I'm CEO of Napoleon Hill Foundation I just got an interview with real Jason Duncan show hopefully the program is beneficial to the time I hope we didn't what Jason I didn't more waste your time but we're learning every day no matter what our age is and I developed a saying a long time ago I don't know where I stld it or what but anyway I often use it I said just think and I had a zoo as a kid so I know what talk monkeys can learn from monkeys us people we got to learn from other people and if you watch Jason Duncan show you'll have a chance to learn from other people does cost you anything but a little bit of time and maybe a little bit of energy but I think you'll be the V for it thank you for much welcome to the root of all success with the real Jason Duncan a podcast that explores how the world's most powerful entrepreneurs unlocked success and how their story can help you do the same a successful educator turned entrepreneur Jason has built multi-million dollar businesses that have been featured in Inc magazine and Entrepreneur magazine his life's Mission now is helping entrepreneurs live what he calls #the exit lifestyle introducing tedex speaker mastermind leader author entrepreneur cigar fishing anado motorcycle enthusiast and host of the root of all success the real Jason Duncan the real Jason Duncan hey welcome back to another edition of the root of all success I'm the real Jason Duncan today I have Don green as my special guest he is the executive director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation so if you are a fan of Think and Grow Rich if you're a fan of nepolean Hill if you're a fan of success Personal Achievement mindset then this is one of our modern-day guides in this movement in this understanding of Napoleon Hill and mindset Etc uh don is 82 years old so he's got a lot of life experience around understanding deeply who Napoleon Hill is and his writings what he what he's done in his writings now Don's had a very good career doing other things he was a banker banking executive for many many years and then he was invited to be the executive director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation about 20 years ago and so he serves as that executive director he moved the the central office for the Napoleon Hill Foundation from Chicago where it was at the time over to University of Virginia's college at WISE which happens to be the location where Napoleon Hill was born um he has won many awards he's been citizen of the year he's won the Sam Walton business leader award the William P Kanto Memorial education award volunteer of the Year award this guy has been a service to humanity for many many years but I think our interested in talking to him today and I think you'll find it interesting today is his depth of knowledge around Napoleon Hill I'm going to ask him several questions about uh about why why Napoleon Hill refers to God as infinite intelligence I'm going to talk about his relationship with Andrew Carnegie we're going to talk about Don's favorite book out of all the writings that napan hill and it's be different it's not what you might have thought it would have been but please tune in and help me welcome Mr Don green to the show hey Don welcome to the show good morning Jason I've been looking forward to this uh no we corresponded some by that fancy communication but that this is close as you can be is with being with someone is a is a across across the internet the computer you can see I'm uh I've been looking forward to this for quite some time and I want to set this up I know in the in the intro I already said some of this to the to the listeners but you are you are such a kind kind soul and you have done a couple of really nice things for me and you're uh your partners at sound wisdom have also done some pretty cool things for me and I want to kind of tell everybody how this got started so I've told everybody who you are but I reached out to I reached out to the poing Hill Foundation um I guess it's been a year and a half ago and I wanted to get a copy of the original the original copy of Think and Grow Rich which I have a picture right here you've got it on your shelf behind you uh I also went out and bought later this complete classic text in hardback which I think is really nice I keep this sitting on my desk all the time but I but I reached out to your foundation and said hey I would like to get a copy of that book uh I don't do business with Amazon personally that's just my own personal thing it's a whole another story I said can I get the book somewhere else and and uh I think David was his name and David was like yeah we you know we we'll take care of that and he sent me I paid and he sent me a copy of the book but he also sent with it he sent me this book which I had I had read before outwitting the devil this is the action guide and uh he sent this to me and that made me forever a fan of what Napoleon Hill Foundation is doing and what you're doing to bring Napoleon Hill's Works to to the world so I am very excited to have you on the show today so let me ask as we get started could you tell me a little bit about how you became uh the executive director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation and then where the foundation actually got it start could you kind of tell us a little bit about that and then we're going to do some deep dive into the polling Hill later in our conversation well in the 90s I was Bank president of course I've been reading the material forever and ever and I know on the Red Hill I tried to read all them other people he read also so I have done a lot of reading but I did a little talk at the Historical soci one night and when I got home I wrote a little message to the office in they were actually in suburb of Chicago and I told them what I'd been doing uh to promote Napoleon Hill and I got a letter back inviting me to come to Chicago and have a dinner with the board and I did and they uh offered me position on the board and I I took it and I knew that they told me that someday I'll be running the foundation if I ever got out of banking because in course especially in the later years the only other CEO he' been in an accident he couldn't travel and and so he he was just W to complete quit he wasn't doing little or nothing except deposit and checks and uh so we sold the bank in year 2000 after 18 years and it was a very good timing and I took the position of the as CEO the Neo Hill Foundation but the first thing I did was move it from Chicago to Wise Virginia on the that's where the PO Hill was born I thought it was only fitting that it be located in the same place right so you took so it had been going for quite some time did the did the foundation start with his wife after his passing or did the foundation get they were actually they were actually she was she was a the lead of the thing and formed in 62 but no they hadn't he was on there and and and an attorney at think to get to start was 60 was in uh was in 1962 eight years before Napoleon passed passed away and actually was it was actually During the period of time he was working with W CL s about that time and fact is Mr Stone he put $500,000 into the foundation to kind of get it off to the start and then when they got to really publishing books and selling them they paid him back without interest but uh he was chairman right up until the time he died he lived to be 100 Mr son did oh wow so when did your interest in Napoleon Hill begin take us back to that beginning of your interest in his writings when in high school I read everything I read everything I could get my hand on it's a long story how I accomplished that but uh anyway I read him when I then I found out that that he'll read and uh uh so I took a job I took a job at a15 C an hour working for a finance company as an outside collector and they furnished educal stuff and I got a I got a little bit from that and I just if I saw something I just expanded on it and I kept reading reading and it it just came to me more I read people like my dad practic Killers making live and working in the coal mines but the people I'm reading about them books they making their money Jason by using their mind and I was determin to get an education study finance and so forth and to and to follow that path I mean I told my I told my cousins at a real early age that I was going to I was going to own a bank I didn't exactly own one but uh I know was made fun of but U you got to see things and the vision of where you want to be rather than where you are fact is that's my I'm just I'm not pluging it but that's my next book about halfway through it it's not a lot of patural written on Vision uh could tell you a lot of stories I know we don't have time but that's a project I want to do and we continuously develop new products uh we have over a 100 books they had 16 when I started uh so we published a lot of books and they had one foreign publisher who came over here from Japan and today we have over 500 foreign Publishers we have 38 Russia alone and how I know is our one of our trustees he's grandson he adopted a couple kids from Russia and he asked me how many Russian polishers and so I had my sister count they were 38 as to time so so you started reading Napoleon Hills writings as a uh as a student in school and now you're the you know long-term director of the foundation for Napoleon Hill what is your favorite book that Napoleon Hill wrote I'm going to assume Think and Grow Rich is it but I maybe it's not so which is your favorite book out of all the writings I think I kind of Bounce Around something a little bit I have a good friend Jeffrey Gore who wrote The Little Red Sales Bible his is uh how to say your way through life he he wrote that 1939 a couple years after old thinking girl Rich he wrote that with his wife and uh I I think it's extremely important and salese love it because every what you're selling you're not selling a product you're selling yourself and we have to do it every day where we realize we not we're selling ourselves to our teachers our co-workers our uh employees or children and and and people we have casual uh conversations with uh uh we're sellingers of and uh but U but then yeah I got to love thinking G rich I don't want to tell you how many times went I don't have no idea but uh I always TR keep one with me I've got one I keep in the car sometimes you just want to open it up and and and read a little bit and it's been so inspirational for example I said that Story 3 feet from go make a good book and I started it and U and uh at with Greg Reed and then Sharon Lecter who did the rich that what books she'd been on told me want to do something other I said sure we not got nowhere on the book I don't have time I did the first few interviews got it laid out and it's going to be our book if you want to write and sure did it done real well it's not it's not it's not that way the devil but it's done real well but I get inspiration uh I let Greg do a book uh called stickability that word comes from thinking Grow Rich and uh U so I just can see something another in in there at uh makes me want to do a book or something something else I mean just like on Creative Vision he says there's not a lot written about it when I read it it's not a lot written about it I was read I said well maybe I ought to write a little bit gather what I know on it and do some research and whatever and and uh it's been real fun and and the favorite one I write is one I'm writing on to the present time I don't I get excited I would like to just walk out and go home and sit down for a week and do it but the office I don't I never write anything in the office except anci correspondence but far as writing on book or introduction or anything like that I do that for my house well you know three uh Shar you mentioned three feet from gold and and Sharon Lecter so Sharon and I know one another she's we've spoken on stages together and then she also endorsed my book uh which is exit without exiting but I had her on this show and we talked a little bit about three feet from gold and outwitting the devil and I I want to mention this because I know a lot of people don't aren't familiar with this book They're not familiar with this as one of Napoleon Hill's writings but for me I believe this was the Gateway for me into really getting deep into understanding Personal Achievement and becoming a fan of Napoleon Hill the book for the for the listeners who aren't familiar with it the book was written really not too long after he wrote Think and Grow Rich but it wasn't released until 2011 so he wrote it in 30s or 40s and he didn't release until 2011 because of the nature of the book at least Don this is the story that I was told told is that it's it's it's an interview between Napoleon Hill and the devil and it's just an interview back and forth back and forth about how the devil takes control of the world and how he uses his powers to do what he does but it's all really about mindset and this idea of you've got to have a definite major purpose in life can't be drifting through life and that book really got me uh got me started on understanding what mindset was and then I went back and read Think and Grow Rich and started really diving in uh so I love outwitting the devil I think it's one of the best and this action guide that you guys have put together has is really fantastic it is a I think 13 we or so action guide no no it's more than that 17 or 18 chapters goes through it so it's a good good book let's take a quick break to thank our amazing sponsors for making this podcast [Music] possible as an entrepreneur I know that you have to deal with sales on a regular basis I mean every entrepreneur does and if you aren't paying attention to sales as an entrepreneur you're not going to be an entrepreneur for very long but I've got a sponsor of this show called dub that helps you bring the personal back to 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money off that book you always want to help these kids go to school and it's funny I got it published there's a bestseller right off and he called one day W 50 copies he was speaking to a group of cardiologists that's why you are chared with cardiologist I said boy for 11 years he wouldn't let me publish it now he wants me to donate him 50 books thought it was funny yes and and I would say about the the devil U it's as a the L it's a man-made fur in one place I read where he said Jason just imagine you're sitting there thinking about taking on a project and there's a little demon on your shoulders and Jason you can't do that you don't know nobody you've not been to school you're going to be you're going to fall flat on your face and you're going to be the Laughing Stu he said the first thing you got to do is dust that little demon off and say I can I will watch me go and we have to give oursel positive selft talk we sit around giv ourselves negative selft talk and it has to be replaced if we're going to be successful I understand that 100% this is another one of the workbooks that you guys I don't know if you had anything to do with this specifically but uh this is Joel faos and August gold put together this this uh action guide this workbook on Think and Grow Rich and I've gone through this with a friend of mine I've gone through it with my son I'm going through it with one of my apprentices and uh it just does a deep dive into the concepts taught by Hill in Think and Grow Rich if you had to if you had Don if you had to take all the concepts and all the things you've learned about Hill I mean you probably have more knowledge of Hill and his Concepts than any human on earth right now what is the one thing to you that is the biggest concept the most important thing the one that we could probably use right now more than anything else in the world no doubt Jason it's finding your purpose even the good book tells us we must find our purpose Rick Warren's book Purpose Driven Life sold 45 million copies last time I look but without that purpose we're just a Wandering is he a Drifter and U that's the starting point of all achievements you can call it a goal you can call it to achieve fame you call it your burning desire it all come that you have to have a purpose what what gets you up in the morning what you think about and work at during the day and what you do the plans if I release the whole formula down to do 3 PS uh it would be it would be purpose planning and persistence that explains it pretty well uh and you got and of course you got to have the purpose and you may not know all the answers if we're taking a trip we don't have to know every Sol never read like one of you we we make Maneuvers and changes as we go and and if we run up to problems we can two types of people that may solve our problems one of them is influence and the other's influence if they knowledge or or their money but I found out successful people they're the most successful you know uh Hey I've said if you want something done get a busy person but uh most people are thinking that plans got to be perfect the most important thing of all is that word action is getting started cuz you what you got all the answers you're never going to start you going always be fine well what if it's that what if it's if you really believe in what you're doing you start out and uh and and you get help if you need it and if your plans need to be changed it's not even important heill says how good the plans are the main thing is you have an idea and uh and you start off and and and add to it and U and if you really love what you're doing is uh is persistence that's as he said was at even a a stamp U sticks to the job uh and he used that he used that course somewh other and it and it's true it's true uh but uh only a very few small percentage of people they have ideas or whatever you and but they don't do nothing work so Napoleon Hill teaches he teaches about this thing he says whatever the mind can conceive and believe it can achieve which if you think about his you know the the the secret to what he wrote In This Book Think and Grow Rich it kind of boils down to that doesn't it whatever the mind can conceive and believe it can achieve my my dad used to have this saying on on his desk when I was a kid what I think about I bring about and I never knew what that meant until until Rec recently in my adult life understanding that and I think it it has this idea that you your thoughts or things your what you think about you going to bring about I know that uh that um um The Strangest Secret with um oh my gosh why am I losing Earl nigh yeah Earl Nightingale you know Earl Nightingale that was what he talked about is that your thoughts what you think about is what's going to lead to your life what do what do you think about that give me your Insight on this idea of what you think about you bring about and Napoleon saying whatever the mind can conceive and believe you can achieve well I think it's absolutely truth I mean you know I read a book about Paul plazer who was an economic advisor to Reagan and he and he said he he quote talked about how much we've progressed in our in our lifetimes more than all of other history Bo put together and and and of course A lot of these people use their mind is like people like Elon Musk it's just absolutely amazing I'm reading his biography right now in must SP time but but it's just amazing and and it's true whatever their mind can conceive and uh and I I know I collect art I know I read a book on Leonardo vich he was drawings for man-made flight back in the 1490s and uh but uh that was a conception somebody had and of course he'll covered that right brother flight we had the newspaper clip and he said farmer said that thing won't fly he said if God want a man to fly would give him wings that and that was a perception it was impossible for things heavier than Earth to to be uh maneuvered but gosh look how the airplane uh has changed the world in three feet from gold you know we interviewed Martin Cooper who did the cell phone and uh he uh he said he went to IBM and they said it was no need for and the original cell phone was probably about that long long if you ever seen one of them but he said then went to mola and got money to do the research and put it together he said the first phone call he made he called the guy at IBM and said I got my phone working and you know you can't imagine a change of it a senator um Mark Warner who's a friend of mine I invest in one of his companies and I introduced him when he's run for governor for US senator but he started he had to sell he got the sell rights for cell phones in Virginia for $1,000 he said he went to his dad he know his dad didn't no money he went to an uncle and Uncle told him his few words that people don't want to drive around their car talking on their cell phone he said you're just fixing to waste your money and so he finally got a friend to go to the bank with him and sign his note for $10,000 he got the rights to the cell phones of Virginia he sold it for $175 million so uh he can he somebody did the cell phone he got that idea what the benefits of it would be and he put it to use and you know it could have been anybody practically got $10,000 but um U There's real progress being made every day I think we're going to be amazed on the ability they can do to feed the world's population with the uh growing growing fruit and all and in know large amounts in small spaces and and so forth but you know if anything out there they is somebody uh some somebody working on and there's two things drives the markets one of them is what people need what they need which is food clothing and shelter and the other is their wants now if you got a a pro2 cell phone Apple um do you really need a 15 but people they're buy they're lining up to buy them and you know they keep raising the price on So You Think You you think you need the you as phone you don't necessarily need it you want it and either one of them will drive the market if people need a phone in their business or computer or they want one to play video games on either one of them will will cause the will make the market let me ask you this question this is a specific question about some of the way that Napoleon Hill teaches what he teaches and uh he he talks about infinite intelligence in his books consistently um which is a euphemism for God the way that he describes it and I I've listened to his 1954 speech in Chicago it's on on the internet on YouTube you can listen to It's like 11 hours I listen to the whole thing and he gave an explanation about why he did why he did that but I wonder you know I knew I think I know that Napoleon Hill uh considered himself to be I think a Christian I think he he followed God at least I at least that's my understanding but why do you think he did he kind of downplayed God and God's name in his writings and referred to him only as INF me I think pretty easy explanation he wrote his material he wanted it to to Pure to everybody in the world he did not want to S he did not want to insult anyone and so no one could argue with with that use of if intelligence and fact is I I don't where I shareed it with you or not but I've got a quote of his it's framable and it's uh it's on tolerance and he basically says he looks forward today when we know each other as brothers and sisters we don't know people by the color of their skin or whether they're Gentiles or Jews or Catholics or whatever we simply know them as brothers and sisters and if we ever get to that stage you know we could we could sell off our guns or B boy or whatever if we ever get to that place but because we're not there it don't mean we don't have to try to work towards it but I think that's explanation because U he uh uh he he wrote he interviewed the Warman Church president uh and I I wrote about that one of his books out on your own mind one of the mental Dynamite books and U he uh he also he you know he followed m m read his material and stuff got got s sent sent over there so he wanted to peel to every everyone out there to lead a better to lead a better life and I think that's a I think that's he's raised as an old Regular Baptist which my mother-in-law follow that if you know anything about them they're very very firm uh what you want to call them they don't use music in a church they don't know pianos no organs no no no drum no music it's all by um they they read the lines and then they so the crowd sings them I think that developed fact is when everybody didn't read somebody would read the line from the book and then it all sing it and if you watch that movie George cloney old brother yeah if you saw that Ralph Stanley who I know uh uh live not far from him done business with him of course he's dead now but he sung that song without any any music and he was from the old Regular Baptist off also people of his very family was so it's a it's interesting but I think I think that was a I think that was a I think that was the point um in that thing without a doubt that he saw his material appealing to everyone well I I certainly understand that explanation and uh I that's what he said in his speech but I wanted to know if there was maybe some more information around that that I didn't have what um you know let's talk about his relationship with Andrew Carnegie I I know that this the story is told as as we get get from history is that this all started with him being a newspaper reporter and Hill being a newspaper reporter and being tasked with interviewing Andrew Carnegie at the time and Carnegie ended up taking under his wing and saying listen I'm going to show you these what now we know is 17 principles for success and Personal Achievement I want you to study this for the next 20 years and and develop a curriculum that will teach people how did he originally how did he and Carnegie work together was it a very friendly relationship or or what can you tell us about his relationship with Andrew Carnegie well he of course he in 198 when he went went to went to Carnegie of course his connection know goes all the way back he spoke in 1932 at a and at a school in Jennings Randolph was in that school he made the connection when he got elected to his FDR but in 198 he took that position of of writing for Bob Taylor who was the US CER from Tennessee and he had a bob T magazine and he went out and interview people and see Jason that's the difference in him and people even morison sweat Marner Samuel SM wrote the first s they wrote about those people kind like history Temple but he actually went to them and interviewed them so uh he uh and I think a whole lot of yourself I'm working on a project now he call success I found a whole bunch of tapes couple hours I guess and I think he got all those he got allot those quotes uh Andrew Carnegie had quotes on the walls in his library in fact is I was our April 30th we did a thing in the in the in the library and he had quotes like it's harder for me to give my money way it was to make it and U and he had quotes on books and and so forth and of course de deepen delving into it I know why he had love for books he said so many libraries of but the historian Kevin Draper told me that in 195 in today's dollars Andrew carneg is worth $150 billion dollar more than he on us and he gave it all away except except $20 million I think he uh you know just you and I both were only one person Liv between us of meeting anybody in the world we want to see and if we find that one person to hell it was of course it was carneg and others would because if he once went to one of them it's easier for him to go to another one so it must be something he interviewed andw for so and and and I know the reason he didn't pay him I think this is if You' to pay him you never he wanted to apply it as he went along so he had to work in fact is if you know who Russell Brunson is you see him over my head the picture of my head he's our he's our largest supporter at at at click phones but uh anyway it it it affected it's it's affected so many people it's just Absolut Ely unbelievable but but it's all it's all about networking and connections and U he he I did a contract with Russell Reon I mentioned his name on he did a big old manual it's must be at thick and he trained car people how to sell cars how to sell insurance and uh and of course his whole material is about selling selling herself selling others and so forth so uh he uh he had a college called woring to County Washington College and automobile College in DC he trained car salesman and he also trained life insurance people and that of course that was his connection to deavid Clem Stone was because of training salese and stone gave the book everybody worked with him by the thousands he gave he gave away thinking G Rich so what uh what is your personal definition of the word success after stud being toland Hill for all these years what do you think successful I can make it make I can make it real short I wrote a book me in our mindset about use some money and so forth but uh money cars clothes good food traveling they're not success they're Pleasures they're Pleasures helping other people is true success that's happiness make a difference in other's lives so by that definition helping other people and living a life in happiness if that's the definition of success that Don green says is Success are you a successful
person well it's a making making people yeah I love her what I do you know I'm 82 years old you know as a bank president for 18 in years I need I'm not I'm not doing this to follow up some money uh I uh make a difference we were benefactor year to last year to college we've given them about $5 million in addition to what what I've done and uh then this year I would volunteer the year which was an span Saturday night and that's quite an honor out the thousands of all them now they got that they picked me and I got the same award 20 some years ago so I've concentrated on helping helping other people and and Jason and most of the time it's people that can't do anything for us I'm not expecting anything in return if I give you a book and I stick it in a mail I feel good about it now you can lay it up or put in a yard sale I did my part and that's all I can do you can't F you can't you can't force success on someone because it's within them it's not the outside it's not even what appears on the outside it's it's what's in us and what are intent is and so forth well let me ask you this most of the people that listen to the show are entrepreneurs business owners so if you had to give one piece of advice from your years of experience at 82 years Young studying a Poland Hill for many of those years what is your one piece of advice that you would give to an entrepreneur well I think a thing on on starting that if you have a job it's it's real easy to start a second business and let it gradually take over because so many people open a little restaurant or open a little store and they going de and and so forth and they and they fail because they don't have you cash flow it takes a long to generate the cash flow but if they can open up a little little place or whatever and maybe work at few hours and evenings and whatever and work at it and gradually you in other words I've saw people take a hobby and develop it into a business but they didn't do it over didn't do it overnight because in the meantime you have to have some money to live on and people get frustrated and quit or they're in debt so they keep going in debt and going in debt and they don't generate cash flow to keep them out of trouble but you know I'm lost some cable TV and spring waterer Dollar General stores and uh uh and pizza pluses and drol in business all those businesses they were all started while I was a bank president I didn't had to take no money out of not initially anyway I remember the cers I did a budget projection on the thing and I thought we make money in 12 months and it turned positive and eight uh business a little better I think I anticipated what my number was but but so many people I use Victor Hugo's quotes it's not that they were playing to fail they just failing to plan yeah they weren't planning to fail they simply failed to plan well and it's a in entrepreneurship a wonderful business I absolutely love it and because my wife asked me one time why would you start a cable TV when you don't even watch Tellis I said because I can of course well Don it's uh it's actually it it's it's one of the pleasures of my week being able to talk to you and meet you I'm a huge fan of what Napoleon Hill Foundation is doing the work that they're doing to get his message this this the ideas of Personal Achievement the theories and and practices of Personal Achievement mindset so thank you for what you're doing and also I want to mention your newest book Napoleon Hills Secret by Don green executive director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation this is your newest book you were kind enough to send me an autographed copy of this recently where can people go get a copy of your new book of course it's real easy Amazon but in the stores because it's it's distributed but it's it's on it's on Amazon and I noticed all the ratings have been good if the ratings on Amazon's been very good and we last in quite a few foreign countries already so and uh and basically I would look at it as a kind of a course I did a lot of work it's was a lot of there's a lot of work went into it there's a lot of work went into it so hopefully someone will take it and as read and says what does this mean where can I use this in other words a book should be reading you at the same time you're reading it otherwise it's just reading a novel to find out the boy got the girl's Uncle D left money or whatever but in these books sure we can write our own story if we do what we should be doing and we really wanted well Don thank you so much for being here on the show today congratulations on all your success in leading the Napoleon Hill Foundation and the books that you've written and the books that you've brought to the public light that wouldn't have been there without your work so thank you sir for all that you've done congratulations on your success and I wish you many more years of continued success so thank you for being on the show thank thank you Jason I hope it done some good for someone stay in stay in touch well there you have it what a wonderful wonderful man Don green is um you know I I I haven't yet had the chance to sit down with him oneone in person have a conversation so today was my first chance of doing that and you got the EES drop in on that conversation but I'm looking forward to at some point being able to meet him face to face and really digging deep into the archives of the Napoleon Hill Foundation and understanding deeply more information about mindset if you have not read Think and Grow Rich if you've not read outwitting the devil those are two books I think you should go right now and pick up copies listen to the audiobook pick up the real copies listen read them um just like he said you read books and books read you so I remember the first time I tried to read Think and Grow Rich I wasn't impressed I I it didn't hit me this was years ago and I put it down about halfway through but then I picked it up again a little over a year and a half ago and it has set my life on a completely different trajectory I am 100% committed to understanding the success achievement personal development Concepts that Napoleon talks about in his books and I would recommend anybody to do that as well um the key comes down to action it comes down to taking action and what I tell my clients all the time is the magic is in the action so make sure you take action don't just listen to the podcast go out and do something but I want to thank you for being here as a listener to the show watching the show on YouTube if you're watching this check out Napoleon Hill Foundation let me give you some information about how to get in touch with him it's nap hill.org that's nap h.org so go check out Napoleon Hill Foundation and when you get in touch with somebody let them know you heard about them on on the root of all success with me the real Jason Duncan you can follow them on Instagram lots of great inspirational quotes every day just look up Napoleon Hill Foundation on Instagram and they're on Facebook too nepolean Hill Foundation and they have a YouTube channel but thanks again to Don green and the nepolean Hill Foundation for Don being a guest on the show today until next time I am the real Jason Duncan and Jesus is King attention business owners attention business owners feeling burned out from running your business uncertain if you're nearing burnout take our free 10 question business burnout test at business burnout test.com to discover where you stand with just 10 quick questions you'll learn how to immediately begin making changes to regain freedom and success cut your daily operations time in half improve your quality of life and prepare your business for your future exit without losing revenue or profit visit business burnout test.com now and take the test thank you for listening to another edition of the root of all success with the real Jason Duncan if you've enjoyed this week's episode visit the root ofall success.com to 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